Paint or Stain Deck? (Plus a Warning: Some Deck Restore Product Nightmares)

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First, let's decide which direction to go:  decide here whether you will paint or stain deck material. Then we hook you up to how to get it done.
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Here we give clear steps on how to 1) choose the best product and 2) the first steps you’ll need to take to paint a deck (or how to stain a deck).

The one thing you will always need to do first is pressure wash: for the cost of paying someone, you can own your own quality pressure washer (this is the 2000 p.s.i., adequate for deck washing)

Sun Joe Pressure Joe 2030 PSI, 1.76 GPM, 14.5-Amp Electric Pressure Washer,SPX3000
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or a smaller, less expensive 1740 p.s.i. version (with either you can wash the car in 10 minutes too!) These will last for decades even with hard use.

Deck restoration is possible (unless you have rot in the decking), but some makers are in legal trouble: class-action complaints. Jump down to #3: Restoring a deck in bad shape?

  1. Think of the future by choosing your treatment carefully
  2. Removing old deck paint or deck stain
  3. Restoring a deck in bad shape
Fun fact: I did a deck treatment on my (big) deck last year. What does a professional painter use? See the end of Section #1 below! Or check my favorite product a zero-maintenance natural wood stain you brush or spray

1. Paint or Stain Deck?

Paint or Stain a Deck
Stain a deck for easy maintenance

After you decide here whether you will paint or stain deck wood, read or posts about what is the best deck paint, or the best deck stain/sealer, and then how to paint a deck or how to stain a deck.

New deck? Lucky you.

  1. Pressure treated decking: Do you have the ‘green stuff’, the pressure treated wood? Big caution here! Before you can decide what you will do with the deck, you need to read about what this wood will accept. See just below.
  2. New deck but kiln dried wood? Go for it. No need to wait. Look at what’s on the market to paint or stain deck wood, in this section, just below.
  3. New deck with water repellent added? Your wood dealer will know. Ask. The common process is called “Thompsonization”. You have to use oil-based stains with this. They told you that, right?
  4. Do you have a new deck, but not pressure treated wood? Just gently wash with moderate water pressure, let dry and read about how to paint or stain deck wood (our posts linked above and below). If you have cedar in a dry climate, you can take your time deciding. Cedar is the best naturally resistant wood. Some people never paint or stain deck make from cedar.

Old deck? I’m with you amigo! Me too—have one that is. The most difficult job I do as a painter is paint removal. This includes ‘solid stain’ which is basically equal to paint. As Clint Eastwood said, “I guess you have to ask yourself one question.” Are you willing to take on the painful labor of scraping loose paint (opaque stain) every 5-7 years?  To us, the intense labor is not worth it just for the painted look.

Recommendations

We make 2 recommendations to our customers and both are low-maintenance. Sometimes they prefer solid stains or paint, but we feel these two are best.

  1. Faced with this choice, most of my customers choose a semi-transparent stain. This includes the lowest labor product: semi-transparent stain because of the low maintenance. These come in colors, but color coverage is not as heavy as paint/opaque stain. That is a good thing! No build up means no scraping. You simply refresh it every 3-7 years (depending on location) with no future prep cost (except a quick washing).
  2. The other one and my favorite (what I put on my home deck ) is a ‘once-in-a-lifetime-treatment’. Well, we will see about my lifetime, but the product is very low-cost, easy to apply, non-toxic, and bugs and water and sun hate it. Read the full post on this  Zero-Maintenance Deck Stain.

Pressure Treated Wood

Depending on your seller, this wood has a green or brown tint. But after the first few months and years of exposure, the color will slowly turn gray.

Some people just let treated lumber age and gray naturally: that is nice too, but if want some color and more protection (especially from the cracking on flat surfaces), you can apply deck paint or deck stain.

When it is aged properly, you can do whatever you want….but…

Be careful here. The wood is likely still wet from the treatment and do you know what happens when you put deck coatings on wet wood? You don’t want to know. Hot climates may reduce this waiting time. There is no way to test when it’s time to paint or stain deck wood because the deck coating will look fine for a while even if the wood is too wet.

This wood spent time in a pressure chamber getting deep stain.

We say you should wait at least six months before staining pressure treated wood. Others say anywhere from 1-9 months. Discuss with YellaWood by email—they are king of pressure treated wood makers: they know the response of wood in your climate.

TIP: When prepping to paint or stain deck pressure-treated wood that is new, there is no need to sand it much: just scuff it with some medium sandpaper to break the surface barrier, then just apply light water pressure only: just remove the dust in the grooves: don’t remove the green/brown protection you paid for! You are ready for whatever treatment you chose.

Sun Joe Pressure Joe 2030 PSI, 1.76 GPM, 14.5-Amp Electric Pressure Washer,SPX3000
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For other wood, we use our #1 helper: an electric pressure washer. Awesome fun. Washes the car too! We always use the rotating tip to prevent accidental gouges of the wood.

Why deck paint jobs go bad.

It’s not necessarily neglect. The main cause of trouble decks is the poor preparation before the last paint job was done. If you skip the mess and pain of scraping and so on and just paint over it, ignoring the growing problem of peeling paint (while the wood underneath begins to rot), you are in a fix.

Not removing loose paint and soil is a major culprit (not to mention painting wet wood—oh, your methods, Marlon—oh, the horror, Mr. Brando).

What kinds of deck stain and sealant are on the market today?

  • These are all listed in our deck paint/stain page (about deck supplies/prep tools etc).
  • Paint and Solid stain: the cleanest look of all, but much more work to maintain.
    Benjamin Moore's ARBORCOAT Solid Deck and Siding Stain (640)
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    If you choose to paint or use a solid stain, buy Arborcoat by Ben Moore, the best deck paint or Ben Moore's INSL-X, the best deck stain (fine for walls and railings), and don’t let the weather beat you: How? Do some annual maintenance and big-time maintenance when it comes to re-do. That means spot scraping and touch-ups. Don’t miss a year.
  • Semi-solid. Shows more grain than the above, but hides more imperfections that below. Very similar to semi-transparent. Low-maintenance.
  • Semi-transparent stain.
    Defy's #1 Semi-Transparent Wood Stain for Decks, Fences, Siding - 1 Gallon (Cedar)
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    Now we’re talking. See the section below on this for more on our pick. Semi-transparent is our 2nd favorite method: low effort, low maintenance, medium protection.
  • Once-in-a-lifetime preservatives: What I used on my deck. Low effort, low cost, great protection. Really, there is no downside except limited colors. See more just below. Our #1 choice.
  • What NOT to use: We have been watching the big paint makers for some years and have been following some lawsuits involving some that have lost lawsuits making claims of greatness. At the bottom of this article is a little bit about that, but to stay positive, we’ll just recommend what we trust: Anvil.
  • The reason we recommend Benjamin Moore and other big-name makers, (and we have no income from them for saying this) is that the research into the chemistry of deck and stain is state of the art. Yes, these cost more up front, but that problem with peeling and failure you have read about will not happen with these big boys. Plus, you don’t need to re-paint or re-stain nearly as often as you do with lesser brands.

BOTTOM LINE—Stain vs Paint:
we like low-maintenance deck stains.

Translucent, a.k.a. semi-solid and semi-transparent stains are like a clear sealant with some tint added.

Big plus: these products need one coat only—that usually does it.

These deck stains are very easy to apply. Downside: they only last about 2-3 years on walking surfaces and about 4-5 on railings etc, depending on your climate, then you must re-apply. But this application is quick as there is not scraping or prepping other than a thorough washing. Below, we recommend highly an electric pressure washer. (See #2 Removing Old Paint)

TIP: to give your semi-transparent stain more power against wood’s graying, choose a darker color (more pigment = more UV filter).

Cat on stain deck


One-time treatments, including what I used on my deck

What did I use to stain my deck? I’m a lazy painter, and I only wanted to treat my deck once. I mean once in my life. So I used what Parks Canada uses on structures like this one. Below, I’ll recommend two other very similar products that I have no experience with, but all three seem to work the same way.

You’ll loooooove the prices too.

My deck: 20 years of fading then applied ECO-Wood deck stain.

These 3 deck stains are all powders. Just mix with water and it’s easy to spray.  I used this garden sprayer.  (Big tip: keep nozzle wet when using and totally clean and dry in storage: years of service). It’s low-cost and you can control the pressure very easily (you need low pressure).

We also have a post about all the best paint sprayers: big time savers.

Overspray of Eco-Wood Treatment is not a big concern, but as with deck stain or deck paint,  it leaves a film on glass and vinyl siding. No worries about overspray less visible things like stone. A gallon sprayed this way will do a small deck: it’s hard to think of coverage because there is overspray and railings etc. Return packages you don’t open! Our post on this type of spray wood stain explains more.

Here are the 3 competing products:

  1. ECO-Wood Treatment comes in 5 colors, but I just used the one linked here. I corresponded with the company and the reply was that it can be once in a lifetime, but depending on climate, may need a re-do. So I’ll repeat in about 10 years I would think.
  2. Valhalla Wood Preservative deck treatment seems to be the same.
    Valhalla Wood Preservatives 5-Gallon Eco Friendly Non Toxic Lifetime Wood Treatment Pouch eco deck stain
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    They stress that they have a formula for Wood Boring Insects (insert your own joke here), such as Carpenter Ants and Termites.
  3. OneTime Wood Protector also seems very good.
    One Time Wood Protector
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    I read a blog of someone chronicling the product: it has stood up to 3 winters and summers on the Great Lakes.

2. Removing old paint or stain?

Whether you will paint or stain deck material, here is the way:

The key tool is water pressure: use it to remove paint, yes you read that right. See my one-minute video demo.  Please be very careful with high-pressure water: it can severely cut your hands and feet etc. I don’t highly recommend gasoline powered washers but if you are set on one, this is it. Pricey, but with a Honda motor so you’ll find maintenance straightforward.

If the washer you buy does not have a rotating tip, buy one to protect your wood (a steady ‘fan’ of high-pressure water can easily gouge your wood). This one works with Sun Joe. The rotation protects the wood/surface from damage from water pressure.

Then when dry, use electricity and really blast the paint off with a drill attachment or a variable speed grinder with the awesome 3M Sandblaster pads.

Bosch Angle 5" Grinder Variable Speed with Paddle Switch, GWS13-50VSP
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Here is a video of how it works.  The grinder can also use a cutting wheel made with chips of diamond-like a hack saw that also cuts stone. You can try different pads for 4½-5-inch grinders too: some tools come with assorted washers so you get a tight fit.

Some Grinders may require the adapter rings for this pad. Handy to have as you might also buy the diamond cutting wheels etc. Fun.

3M SandBlaster Grinder Disc 9681 4-1/2-Inch Coarse Clean-N-Strip Disc
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Finally, it’s sandpaper time. Sorry to tell you, sanding is very hard work: use the rough stuff–50 grit or 80-grit in an electric orbital and/or belt sander.  My sander is Dewalt. It works with any 5-inch hook and loop sandpaper.

Note: this process cannot fix a rotting deck. See at the bottom of this post all about the lawsuits of products that claim they can restore a deck). If it’s too far gone, go to the next section and read about replacement options.

We`ve seen lots of decks that suffer from neglect or poor treatment choice, but the plan of attack will be the same: strip off that crap down to the wood and start over. What about scraping in between the deck boards and in the corners? Don’t do it, or just get what you can. You’ll be using a preservative that will protect (see my recommendations below).

 

3.  Restoring a deck in bad shape?

Dishonest advertising has resulted in many people buying some problem products: see more in the next section: Freddy Kruger awaits you.

Best deck treatment for restore projects:

At the bottom of this section is the only product we recommend.

Your wood is getting wet and slowly weakening. Ok, this is going to hurt. Like my bedside manner? You will need scrapers and the electric grinder or sander—and you follow Section #2 above. But if your deck is too far gone…

Don’t worry, there is light at the end of the tunnel, you can rest easy.

First, let’s discuss replacement.

Worst case: Deck restoration is urgent. Rot and weak lumber and you are going to need at least some sections of new lumber (or non-wood decking*) maybe in order and you need some experts to give you free estimates. If you think you can save the deck, by all means, spend your money on the sanding routine above, but it may be best and safest to just take out the bad sections and replace them.


Best deck stain for restore projects: More is Less

  • Anvil’s Deck Restore Product. As always, start with the pressure washer (links above). Next, apply a coat of the Aqua Seal Bonding Primer. It becomes clear when dry in a few hours. (Very old decks need 2 coats.)
    Anvil Deck-A-New Resurfacer Paint, Restores Wood Decks, Porches, Concrete Patios & Pool Decks, Premium Textured, 5 Slip Resistant Colors Available - Cedar, 1 Gallon (Pack of 2)
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    The only product I can find good reviews about is Anvil.
  • When the primer is dry/clear but still tacky, apply the Deck-A-New in two not-very-thick coats allowing about 24 hrs. between coats.
  • You must wait at least one day between coats.
  • It’s not necessary but if you like a high gloss, you can  add a coat or two of the Wet Look Sealer.
  • I have not tried this product, but I have spoken to the maker, and the reviews seem very good. Plus, I found no lawsuits regarding this product!

Below are the products to stay away from (Hint: ignore TV ads if you are planning to paint or stain deck).

 

4. Not as advertised: Shortcomings of Deck Restore Products

(The only one that we trust is in #3 above.)
  • Deck resurfacing products are basically are extremely thick paint. The idea is to mask the wood cracks.
  • After you use this product there is no deciding whether or not you will paint or stain deck wood. You’ll paint.
  • These all have one thing in common–short high failure rate. If you will paint or stain deck wood, be careful with these products. Ask a paint store manager: they know.

LAWSUITS OF

  1. RUST-OLEUM RESTORE
  2. OLYMPIC RESCUE
  3. BEHR DECKOVER

Note: Thompson’s WaterSeal does not appear here, but we always tell our customers about its short lifespan: from our experience.

1. Lawsuit: Rust-Oleum Deck Restore

Even though they have lost this lawsuit, Rust-Oleum Deck Restore is still sold to unsuspecting consumers and has not been pulled from the shelves.

Consumers who have used the Rust-Oleum Deck Restore 1ox,  and have had a poor experience with peeling and failure, and they have won a Class Action Lawsuit against them.

2. Lawsuit: Olympic Rescue

Many customers are reporting the failure of this product and the company paid 6.5 million dollars to claimants in 2016, but still sell this product.

3. Lawsuit: Behr DeckOver

This lawsuit is just getting started, so I will just point you to topclassactions.com.Watch this pissed off customer. Ouch.


Now that you have decided whether to paint or stain deck(or hopefully not replace!), please go on to the details about your first step.

Big deck

Ps, if you live in the Mississauga area, you want to call Mississauga Painters Ltd. They are excellent painters. They do residential and commercial, interiors and exteriors and have been at it for a long time. They have a long list of satisfied customers.

Related:
Be sure to have all the painter tools that you need

How to Stain a Deck Quickly, the Right Way

How to Paint a Deck With One Big Timesaving Tip

Best Deck Paint (with a Big Word of Caution)

Best Deck Stain and Sealer: Complications Simplified

Spray Wood Stain – Zero-Maintenance Deck Stain Treatment

Questions? Let us know in the comments anything about whether you might paint or stain deck.

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21 thoughts on “Paint or Stain Deck? (Plus a Warning: Some Deck Restore Product Nightmares)”

  1. Hi Brad,
    I used Olympic Rescue on my wood deck a couple of years ago and now its peeling badly. Is it too late to be a part of the class action lawsuit? Anyway I power washed my deck, ( 11 hp. 4.5gal minute gas power washer), but there is still some of the product remaining on the wood. I would like to use the “once in a lifetime “product you mentioned.The wood on my deck was in like new condition before I put the Olympic Restore on it. When I power washed the deck I used a turbo nozzle and chewed up a couple of boards so I have to replace them and also a couple of boards on the sides that have rotted. I have a palm sander and a grinder ,which one would you suggest using to remove the stuff that remains on my deck? Also should I go over the whole deck with a sander to smooth out any rough spots caused by the power washer. What grits should I use on the sander and or grinder?Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. This has been a nightmare .I’m so aggravated about this!

    • Hi. I think it’s too late, but follow that link to see. Depends when you did it and when you file I think. You used the rotating tip so the wood you lost was a healthy process: good to get rid of it. Safer that way. Consider Bondo for some boards if the rot is removed and you just have a big hole, but the Eco Wood Stain will not penetrate Bondo, is my guess. EcoWood will be a good choice for your deck if you can get all that old stuff off. Yes, grinder with a rough pad is what we’d do. Sander in the end just to take off splinters of wood after the grinder. Grit? Maybe 40 on the grinder and 80 on the sander? That is just from my memory. Get the grinder wheel if it makes sense. You may need the adapter kit for your grinder. This is mine.
      A good scraper and good metal file will come in handy: keep your scraper blade sharp. I have a video how to: just search site for “scraper”.
      A drill attachment is also good: using electricity is the way to go whenever possible.
      I know what you feel: it’s a mess. But decks cannot last forever: they have to be replaced. Our job is to delay that. Work hard with the knowledge that you will be done for a very long time. Take it section by section and feel good that each square foot is good before you move on. Spend the summer getting in your exercise! Stock up on grinder wheels!

  2. I have a pressure treated wood, 19 year old approximately 12×12 deck and bad knees. Would a hardwood floor sander work for the sanding step?

    • Hi. I’ve never tried it. I’m worried the edge of the circular sandpaper would catch in the gaps between the decking floor, if you have that. My advice is to stop by home depot with some photos on a phone, camera, and ask about the rental. They have a guy in most stores with experience in just about everything. Just don’t ask in the paint department as they hire drones who really cannot answer basic questions!! I’ve tested them! But the ‘expert desk’ or whatever they call it is usually very helpful. Good luck. PS, now that I think about it, why not try a 1/2 day rental. If no go, then hire a teen and give him some character!

    • Frank, I used a square buff floor sander that I rented at Home Depot with 60 & 120 grit sandpaper. It worked great and saved me so much time. My deck is 20×24 pressure treated also.

    • We just rented an “orbital deck and floor sander” from Home Depot I think it was $45 for 4 hours and it was easy to use and easy on my back. We used the 36 grit sandpaper at first but the 20 grit was better at removing layers of paint. Good luck!

  3. Rustoleum 6x Deck Restore is a terrible product. I paid $1500 for their prep paint and deck paint to end up having to strip it all off and use a different paint. It does not live up to all of Rustoleums promises. Avoid their deck products at all costs. TERRIBLE WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME

  4. I am actually looking to refinish a 2nd hand wooden playset. Wanted to do the house part red with white trim, and was looking for recommendations. I’m not sure if it’s painted or opaque stain. I was planning on power washing and sanding some spots if needed. What would you suggest for the floor? I’d rather not have to redo it in a few years. I picked up kilz barn paint for the house part, thoughts? Should I get something else?

    • Hi. I never tried Kilz Barn, but can’t be bad. The prep is key, yes wash and scrape, then prime raw wood, and 2 coats paint. For the floor, if exposed to the elements or even if not, use ToughShield from Ben Moore: not to worry about the abuse kids will wreak. You cannot keep the elements from making you re-do in some years. My approach: yearly spot scrape and paint. Never needs a full job that way: takes an hour.
      Good luck

  5. Hi, Brad! I have a new pressure treated wood covered porch that faces south. It was built last summer. I was hoping to stain it this fall, but I want all the vertical parts to be white and the floor gray. I’d prefer the look of paint, but I’m leaning towards semi-transparent for the sake of maintenance. My problem is I can’t find any semi-transparent stains in white. If I use the clear primer you recommended earlier, would I get more life out of an opaque stain? What exactly is the best process for prepping a pressure treated deck/porch that’s never had anything applied to it yet? Thanks for any help you can offer!

    • Hi. It’s funny but some things, like floor paint, are hard to find in white. Painter’s pants are white because it’s the most common color! Anyway, I did some testing of a once in a lif3etime stain… eco-friendly and you can add color. It’s not very opaque, not at all like paint…But please think this through— you love the look of paint on a porch, we all do. But…south-facing esp… paint and opaque stain (same thing) will chip, need scraping, etc and you will be doing this every so many years. Uff. Hard work too. Have a look at semi-transparent (they need upkeep) or the Eco-Wood that I mentioned: you would only re-do to freshen color, but that would never be necessary otherwise. My vote: no maintenance.
      The Eco wood white is not very white: very transparent. Watch my video on it:

      For prep, just pressure wash and let dry totally. You have waited long enough: new wood must age.
      Good luck.
      b

  6. I have a deck that is older but sturdy. I used restore about 12 years ago, it held up well now it is starting to peel. I already power washed and scrapped. Only the loose paint came off. What product would you recommend?

    • Wow, congrats. 12 years is great. I’d just be happy to take off what comes off, then spot-paint. First prime bare wood with good (oil) primer, then touch up. Lucky you. You’d be shocked at the nightmares people tell me about deck restore products.

      B

  7. Brad
    August 8, 2019
    I used Rustoleum restore on my deck 5 years ago and have not had a problem. I don’t have any peeling or any signs of any type of failure. Knowing that moisture would be a problem, I painted a thin coat on first and let it cure. Then I rolled on two coats of the thicker product letting it cure each time. I followed the instructions for cleaning the prepping the deck before applying the product. I think the product was good if applied properly. Now, the only problem I have is what to use to recoat the deck.

    • Well done indeed. I think the lawsuits are coming from the many people who thought these products would cure the rot, or stop the rot. I think to re-coat, use the same thing in the same way. Thanks for this info: I’ll remember it and pass it on.
      B

  8. Hello brad
    I used an oil based solid stain by Olympic 6 years ago , my deck is beside the lake so a lot of sun, it is no longer available so I am at a loss of what to use , I have minimal cracking in the wood and no peeling.what do you recommend?

    • I always went with Arborcoat but any high-end solid stain is good. Spend more here and you’ll save in the end: labor and you won’t be re-doing as often. Do a very very good prep job: scrape, sand, wash etc. Good luck!

  9. Hello brad,

    Arborcoat looks like a quality product. Do I have to remove all the old stain or just rough the top of it for adhesion . I have a pressure washer and when I started to clean the deck it started to remove some of the old stain. The rotating power nozzle is very strong. what percent of the old stain do I remove , as much as I can or just what is loose?
    Thanks Steve

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